SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C. 20549
FORM 8-K
CURRENT REPORT
Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d)
of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Date of Report (Date of earliest event reported): December 19, 2019
SANDERSON FARMS, INC.
(Exact name of registrant as specified in its charter)
Mississippi |
1-14977 |
64-0615843 |
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(State or other jurisdiction of incorporation) |
(Commission File Number) |
(I.R.S. Employer Identification No.) |
127 Flynt Road Laurel, Mississippi |
39443 |
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(Address of principal executive offices) |
(Zip Code) |
(601) 649-4030
(Registrant’s telephone number, including area code)
(Former name or former address, if changed since last report)
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Securities registered pursuant to Section 12(b) of the Act:
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Common stock, $1 par value per share |
SAFM |
NASDAQ |
Indicate by check mark whether the registrant is an emerging growth company as defined in Rule 405 of the Securities Act of 1933 (§230.405 of this chapter) or Rule 12b-2 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (§240.12b-2 of this chapter).
Emerging growth company ☐
If an emerging growth company, indicate by check mark if the registrant has elected not to use the extended transition period for complying with any new or revised financial accounting standards provided pursuant to Section 13(a) of the Exchange Act. ☐
Section 2 – Financial Information
Item 2.02 | Results of Operations and Financial Condition. |
On December 19, 2019, the Registrant issued a press release announcing its earnings for its fiscal quarter and year ended October 31, 2019. The press release is furnished herewith as Exhibit 99.1. Also on December 19, 2019, the Registrant held a conference call to discuss its earnings for its fiscal quarter and year ended October 31, 2019. A transcript of the conference call is furnished herewith as Exhibit 99.2. The information in the press release and transcript is not to be considered “filed” for purposes of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended (the “Exchange Act”), and is not incorporated by reference into the Registrant’s filings under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended (the “Securities Act”).
CAUTIONARY STATEMENT REGARDING RISKS AND UNCERTAINTIES
THAT MAY AFFECT FUTURE PERFORMANCE
Exhibit 99.2 to this Current Report may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the “Safe Harbor” provisions of Section 27A of the Securities Act and Section 21E of the Exchange Act. These forward-looking statements are based on a number of assumptions about future events and are subject to various risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from the views, beliefs and estimates expressed in such statements. These risks, uncertainties and other factors include, but are not limited to, the risks described in Exhibit 99.1 to this Current Report and in the Registrant’s Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended October 31, 2019, and in any subsequent Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q. The risks cannot be controlled by the Registrant. Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements made by or on behalf of the Registrant. Each such statement speaks only as of the day it was made. The Registrant undertakes no obligation to update or to revise any forward-looking statements. The factors cannot be controlled by the Registrant. When used in Exhibit 99.2 to this Current Report, the words “believes,” “estimates,” “plans,” “expects,” “should,” “could,” “outlook,” and “anticipates” and similar words are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Examples of forward-looking statements include statements about the Registrant’s beliefs about growth plans, future demand for its products, future prices for feed grains, future expenses, future production levels, future earnings, future growth plans or other industry conditions.
Section 5 – Corporate Governance and Management
Item 5.02 | Departure of Directors or Certain Officers; Election of Directors; Appointment of Certain Officers; Compensatory Arrangements of Certain Officers. |
On December 20, 2019, Robert C. Khayat notified the Chairman of the Board of Directors and Chief Executive Officer of Sanderson Farms, Inc. (the “Registrant”) that he will retire from the Board of Directors effective December 31, 2019. Mr. Khayat’s decision to retire is not the result of any disagreement with the Registrant’s operations, policies or practices.
Section 7 — Regulation FD
Item 7.01 | Regulation FD Disclosure. |
On December 23, 2019, the Company issued a press release regarding the matter referenced in Item 5.02 above. A copy of the press release is furnished herewith as Exhibit 99.3.
In accordance with General Instruction B.2, the information contained in this Item 7.01 and the attached Exhibit 99.3 is being “furnished” to the SEC and shall not be deemed “filed” for the purposes of Section 18 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, or otherwise subject to the liabilities under such section. Furthermore, such information shall not be deemed to be incorporated by reference in any filing under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, or the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, unless specifically identified as being incorporated therein by reference.
Section 9 – Financial Statements and Exhibits
Item 9.01 | Financial Statements and Exhibits. |
(d) Exhibits:
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99.1 |
Press release of Sanderson Farms, Inc. dated December 19, 2019. |
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99.2 |
Transcript of conference call held by Sanderson Farms, Inc. on December 19, 2019. |
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99.3 |
Press Release of Sanderson Farms, Inc. dated December 23, 2019. |
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99.1 |
Press release of Sanderson Farms, Inc. dated December 19, 2019. |
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99.2 |
Transcript of conference call held by Sanderson Farms, Inc. on December 19, 2019. |
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99.3 |
Press Release of Sanderson Farms, Inc. dated December 23, 2019. |
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SIGNATURES
Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.
SANDERSON FARMS, INC.
(Registrant)
Date: December 26, 2019 |
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/s/ D. Michael Cockrell |
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D. Michael Cockrell Treasurer and Chief Financial Officer |
Exhibit 99.1
Contact: | Mike Cockrell | |
Treasurer & Chief Financial Officer | ||
(601) 426-1454 |
SANDERSON FARMS, INC. REPORTS
RESULTS FOR FOURTH QUARTER AND FISCAL 2019
LAUREL, Miss. (December 19, 2019) Sanderson Farms, Inc. (NASDAQ: SAFM) today reported results for the fourth quarter and fiscal year ended October 31, 2019.
Net sales for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2019 were $906.5 million compared with $798.1 million for the same period a year ago. For the quarter, the Company reported a net loss of $22.9 million, or $1.05 per share, compared with a net loss of $ 43.2 million, or $1.95 per share, for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2018.
Net sales for fiscal 2019 were $3.440 billion compared with $3.236 billion for fiscal 2018. Net income for the fiscal year totaled $53.3 million, or $2.41 per share, compared with net income of $61.4 million, or $2.70 per share, for last fiscal year.
The results for the quarter and fiscal year ended October 31, 2018, included a charge of $9.6 million, or approximately $0.32 per share net of income taxes, to record live inventories on hand at October 31, 2018, at the lower of cost or net realizable value as required by generally accepted accounting principles. Results for the quarter and fiscal year ended October 31, 2019, include a charge of $2.8 million, or approximately $0.10 cents per share net of income taxes, to record live inventories on hand at October 31, 2019, at the lower of cost or net realizable value.
The fourth quarter marked the end of the second fiscal year in a row during which market prices for boneless breast meat produced at our plants that process a larger bird for food service customers fell to historically low levels after Labor Day, said Joe F. Sanderson, Jr., chairman and chief executive officer of Sanderson Farms, Inc. Similar to fiscal 2018, market conditions weakened significantly during our fourth fiscal quarter of 2019. Despite weakness during our fourth fiscal quarter, overall market prices for poultry moved counter-cyclically higher during November and December, and several factors are expected to support higher market prices for poultry meat as we move into the new calendar year. The protein deficit caused by African swine fever in China and other countries, recently well-publicized chicken sandwich features at quick serve restaurants, and expected higher retail pork and beef prices should all support stronger poultry markets as we move into 2020.
For the fiscal year, we reported record volume of poultry products sold of 4.53 billion pounds, compared to 4.44 billion pounds in fiscal 2018. Grain prices were slightly higher during fiscal 2019 compared with prices paid in fiscal 2018; however, feed costs in processed flocks were essentially flat per pound, as higher prices paid for feed grain were offset by improved live bird performance.
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According to Sanderson, overall realized prices for poultry products were 3.5 percent higher in fiscal 2019 compared with prices last year. Boneless breast meat market prices averaged 1.0 percent lower in the fourth quarter than the prior-year period. For the full fiscal year, boneless breast meat market prices were 3.4 percent lower compared with fiscal 2018. Jumbo wing market prices averaged $1.73 per pound during the fourth quarter of fiscal 2019, up 19.0 percent from the average of $1.46 per pound during the prior-year period. Jumbo wing market prices averaged $1.72 per pound during the fiscal year, up 19.9 percent from the average of $1.44 per pound for fiscal 2018. The average market price for bulk leg quarters increased approximately 20.6 percent for the fourth fiscal quarter of 2019 compared with the fourth fiscal quarter of 2018, and increased 1.3 percent for fiscal 2019 compared to fiscal 2018. Cash prices for corn during the fourth fiscal quarter increased by 12.8 percent, while soybean meal cash prices were lower by 8.4 percent. For the full fiscal year, cash corn prices were higher by 4.9 percent, while soymeal cash prices were lower by 10.2 percent when compared to fiscal 2018.
We continue to make progress toward full production at our new poultry complex in Tyler, Texas, added Sanderson. The startup in Tyler has gone very well, and we are now processing at approximately 75 percent capacity. We expect to reach full production of 1.3 million head per week at the new plant during our second fiscal quarter of 2020. At full production, that plant will produce approximately 390 million pounds of tray pack product annually for our retail grocery store customers. We also continue to evaluate sites for our next poultry complex, and, as always, look forward to our next phase of growth.
We are cautiously optimistic as we enter fiscal and calendar 2020. Poultry market prices have moved counter-cyclically higher in November and December, and most expect protein markets to be supported in 2020 by a worldwide protein deficit caused by African swine fevers impact on Asian pork supplies. In addition, increased promotional activity for chicken sandwiches at quick-serve restaurants and higher expected prices for beef and pork should also support a stronger poultry market as we move into 2020.
As of October 31, 2019, our balance sheet reflected $1.774 billion in assets, stockholders equity of $1.418 billion and net working capital of $365.4 million. We believe our balance sheet provides us with the financial strength not only to support our growth strategy, but also to consistently manage our operations through the cycles that characterize our industry. We deeply appreciate the hard work and dedication to excellence of our employees, growers and everyone associated with our company, Sanderson concluded.
Sanderson Farms will hold a conference call to discuss this press release today, December 19, 2019, at 10:00 a.m. Central, 11:00 a.m. Eastern. Investors will have the opportunity to listen to a live internet broadcast of the conference call through the Companys website at www.sandersonfarms.com. To listen to the live call, please go to the website at least 15 minutes early to register, download, and install any necessary audio software. For those who cannot listen to the live broadcast, an internet replay will be available shortly after the call and continue through December 26, 2019. Those without internet access, or who prefer to participate via telephone, may call 1-800-263-0877, access code 8103164.
Sanderson Farms, Inc. is engaged in the production, processing, marketing and distribution of fresh, frozen and minimally prepared chicken. Its shares trade on the NASDAQ Global Select Market under the symbol SAFM.
This press release includes forward-looking statements within the meaning of the safe harbor provisions of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. Forward-looking statements are based on a number of assumptions about future events and are subject to various risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from the views, beliefs, projections and estimates expressed in such statements. These risks, uncertainties and other factors include, but are not limited to those discussed under Risk Factors in the Companys Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended October 31, 2019, and the following:
(1) Changes in the market price for the Companys finished products and feed grains, both of which may fluctuate substantially and exhibit cyclical characteristics typically associated with commodity markets.
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(2) Changes in economic and business conditions, monetary and fiscal policies or the amount of growth, stagnation or recession in the global or U.S. economies, any of which may affect the value of inventories, the collectability of accounts receivable or the financial integrity of customers, and the ability of the end user or consumer to afford protein.
(3) Changes in the political or economic climate, trade policies, laws and regulations or the domestic poultry industry of countries to which the Company or other companies in the poultry industry ship product, and other changes that might limit the Companys or the industrys access to foreign markets.
(4) Changes in laws, regulations, and other activities in government agencies and similar organizations applicable to the Company and the poultry industry and changes in laws, regulations and other activities in government agencies and similar organizations related to food safety.
(5) Various inventory risks due to changes in market conditions including, but not limited to, the risk that market values of live and processed poultry inventories might be lower than the cost of such inventories, requiring a downward adjustment to record the value of such inventories at the lower of cost or net realizable value as required by generally accepted accounting principles.
(6) Changes in and effects of competition, which is significant in all markets in which the Company competes, and the effectiveness of marketing and advertising programs. The Company competes with regional and national firms, some of which have greater financial and marketing resources than the Company.
(7) Changes in accounting policies and practices adopted voluntarily by the Company or required to be adopted by accounting principles generally accepted in the United States.
(8) Disease outbreaks affecting the production, performance and/or marketability of the Companys poultry products, or the contamination of its products.
(9) Changes in the availability and cost of labor and growers.
(10) The loss of any of the Companys major customers.
(11) Inclement weather that could hurt Company flocks or otherwise adversely affect its operations, or changes in global weather patterns that could affect the supply and price of feed grains.
(12) Failure to respond to changing consumer preferences and negative or competitive media campaigns.
(13) Failure to successfully and efficiently start up and run a new plant or integrate any business the Company might acquire.
(14) Unfavorable results from currently pending litigation and proceedings, or litigation and proceedings that could arise in the future.
Readers are cautioned not to place undue reliance on forward-looking statements made by or on behalf of Sanderson Farms. Each such statement speaks only as of the day it was made. The Company undertakes no obligation to update or to revise any forward-looking statements. The factors described above cannot be controlled by the Company. When used in this press release or in the related conference call, the words believes, estimates, plans, expects, should, outlook, and anticipates and similar expressions as they relate to the Company or its management are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Examples of forward-looking statements include statements of the Companys belief about its growth plans, future demand for its products, future prices for feed grains, future expenses, future production levels, future earnings, future growth plans or other industry conditions.
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SANDERSON FARMS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
Condensed Consolidated Statements of Operations
(In thousands, except per share amounts)
Three Months Ended
October 31, |
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Net sales |
$ | 906,489 | $ | 798,148 | $ | 3,440,258 | $ | 3,236,004 | ||||||||
Cost and expenses: |
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Cost of sales |
884,946 | 787,660 | 3,158,323 | 2,974,739 | ||||||||||||
Live inventory adjustment |
2,800 | 9,600 | 2,800 | 9,600 | ||||||||||||
Selling, general and administrative |
51,150 | 58,575 | 211,141 | 221,965 | ||||||||||||
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938,896 | 855,835 | 3,372,264 | 3,206,304 | |||||||||||||
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Operating income (loss) |
(32,407 | ) | (57,687 | ) | 67,994 | 29,700 | ||||||||||
Other income (expense) |
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Interest income |
| 842 | | 2,911 | ||||||||||||
Interest expense |
(982 | ) | (518 | ) | (4,156 | ) | (2,066 | ) | ||||||||
Other |
3 | 3 | 9 | 12 | ||||||||||||
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(979 | ) | 327 | (4,147 | ) | 857 | |||||||||||
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Income (loss) before income taxes |
(33,386 | ) | (57,360 | ) | 63,847 | 30,557 | ||||||||||
Income tax expense (benefit) |
(10,515 | ) | (14,162 | ) | 10,553 | (30,874 | ) | |||||||||
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Net income (loss) |
$ | (22,871 | ) | $ | (43,198 | ) | $ | 53,294 | $ | 61,431 | ||||||
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$ | (1.05 | ) | $ | (1.95 | ) | $ | 2.41 | $ | 2.70 | ||||||
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$ | (1.05 | ) | $ | (1.95 | ) | $ | 2.41 | $ | 2.70 | ||||||
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$ | 0.32 | $ | 0.32 | $ | 1.28 | $ | 1.28 | ||||||||
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The Condensed Consolidated Statements of Operations for the twelve months ended October 31, 2019 and 2018 were derived from the audited consolidated financial statements for those periods, but do not include all of the information and footnotes required by U.S. generally accepted accounting principles for complete financial statements. |
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SANDERSON FARMS, INC. AND SUBSIDIARIES
Condensed Consolidated Balance Sheets
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Current assets: |
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Cash and cash equivalents |
$ | 95,417 | $ | 121,193 | ||||
Accounts receivable, net |
131,778 | 121,932 | ||||||
Receivable from insurance companies |
445 | 7,094 | ||||||
Inventories |
289,928 | 240,056 | ||||||
Refundable income taxes |
6,612 | 32,974 | ||||||
Prepaid expenses |
56,931 | 43,240 | ||||||
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Total current assets |
581,111 | 566,489 | ||||||
Property, plant and equipment |
2,139,333 | 1,961,497 | ||||||
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(953,473 | ) | (873,909 | ) | ||||
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7,163 | 5,363 | ||||||
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$ | 1,774,134 | $ | 1,659,440 | ||||
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Accounts payable |
$ | 132,741 | $ | 128,936 | ||||
Accrued expenses |
82,940 | 69,953 | ||||||
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215,681 | 198,889 | ||||||
Long-term debt |
55,000 | | ||||||
Claims payable and other liabilities |
11,646 | 9,865 | ||||||
Deferred income taxes |
74,132 | 62,793 | ||||||
Commitments and contingencies Stockholders equity: |
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22,204 | 22,100 | ||||||
Paid-in capital |
86,010 | 81,269 | ||||||
Retained earnings |
1,309,461 | 1,284,524 | ||||||
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1,417,675 | 1,387,893 | ||||||
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$ | 1,774,134 | $ | 1,659,440 | ||||
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The Condensed Consolidated Balance Sheets at October 31, 2019 and 2018 were derived from the audited consolidated financial statements at those dates, but do not include all of the information and footnotes required by U.S. generally accepted accounting principles for complete financial statements. |
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Exhibit 99.2
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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
D. Michael Cockrell Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Joe F. Sanderson Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Lampkin Butts Sanderson Farms, Inc. - President, COO & Director
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Adam L. Samuelson Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division - Equity Analyst
Benjamin M. Theurer Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division - Head of the Mexico Equity Research & Director
Benjamin Mayhew
Benjamin Shelton Bienvenu Stephens Inc., Research Division - MD
Eric Jon Larson The Buckingham Research Group Incorporated - Analyst
Heather Lynn Jones Heather Jones Research LLC - Founder
Jonathan Patrick Feeney Consumer Edge Research, LLC - Senior Analyst of Food & HPC, Director of research and Managing Partner
Kenneth B. Goldman JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - Senior Analyst
Michael Leith Piken Cleveland Research Company - Equity Analyst
Peter Thomas Galbo BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Associate
Robert Bain Moskow Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division - Research Analyst
PRESENTATION
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Sanderson Farms, Inc. Fourth Quarter 2019 Conference Call. Todays call is being recorded. And at this time, for opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Joe Sanderson. Please go ahead, sir.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to Sanderson Farms Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year-End Conference Call. This morning, we reported a net loss of $22.9 million or $1.05 per share for our fourth fiscal quarter of 2019. During the fourth quarter of last year, we lost $43.2 million or $1.95 per share. For the year ended October 31, 2019, we reported net income of $53.3 million or $2.41 per share. For fiscal 2018, we reported net income of $61.4 million or $2.70 per share. The results of the quarter and the fiscal year ended October 31, 2018, include an adjustment of $9.6 million, approximately $0.32 per share net of income taxes to record live inventories on hand at October 31, 2018, at the lower of cost or net realizable value as required by generally accepted accounting principles. Results for the quarter and fiscal year ended October 31, 2019, include a similar adjustment of $2.8 million or $0.10 per share net of income taxes. If you did not receive a copy of the release and accompanying financial summary, they are available on our website at www.sandersonfarms.com.
Before we continue, I will ask Mike to give the cautionary statement regarding forward-looking statements.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Thank you, Joe, and good morning, everyone. This mornings call will contain forward-looking statements about the business, financial condition and prospects of the company. Examples of forward-looking statements include statements about future earnings, expenditures, supply and demand factors, production levels, grain cost and supply, poultry prices, growth plans and economic conditions. The words, believes, expects, anticipates, estimates, model, should, plans and similar words are intended to identify forward-looking statements.
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The actual performance of the company could differ materially from that indicated by the forward-looking statements because of various risks and uncertainties. These risks and uncertainties are described in our press release and in the annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended October 31, 2019, which was filed with the SEC this morning.
All forward-looking statements speak only as of today and are based on current expectations, beliefs and assumptions, which could change quickly based on many external factors affecting our business. We undertake no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Thank you, Mike. Our financial results for the fourth fiscal quarter and year ended October 31, reflect weak market prices for boneless breast meat produced at our big bird deboning plants. Fewer than normal features for chicken products at retail grocery stores, continued inefficiencies at our Tyler, Texas complex as we move that complex to full production, slightly higher cost for feed grain and planned downtime at processing plants to replace and upgrade equipment. Overall, poultry market prices increased slightly for the year compared to fiscal 2018, and grain prices were also slightly higher during the year. That said, feed cost in flocks so were flat as improved efficiencies offset the higher prices paid for grain.
Our net sales for fiscal 2019 were $3.44 billion and our net income was $2.41 per share. We sold a record 4.53 billion pounds of poultry products.
The start-up at Tyler has gone very well, and we continue to move that plant toward full production. We also continue to evaluate sites for our next phase of growth. While we have room to materially improve our performance, Im very grateful to the efforts of our growers and our employees during this past fiscal year, and I look forward to working with them to capture the significant opportunities available to us during the coming year.
With that introduction, Ill ask Lampkin and Mike to provide some details on the quarter, and Ill return as they finish to discuss our focus during fiscal 2020 and answer your questions.
Lampkin Butts - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - President, COO & Director
Thank you, Joe, and good morning, everyone. As Joe said, overall market prices for chicken were higher during the fiscal year compared to fiscal 2018, and our feed costs per pound for the year were essentially flat.
Tray pack prices during our fourth quarter and the fiscal year continue to reflect relatively balanced supply and demand dynamics. But volumes reflect fewer than normal features at retail grocery stores and at national food service restaurants during the year, which we believe is a result of ample availability and lower wholesale prices for competing proteins. For the year, our tray pack prices were lower by $0.0137 per pound compared to 2018. But with a $0.0225 per pound improvement in our mix, our overall average realized price for tray pack sales increased $0.0089 per pound.
For the fourth quarter, tray pack sales prices were higher by $0.0012 per pound compared to the fourth quarter of fiscal 2018.
Our mix was also better, so that our net average sales prices during the fourth quarter were higher by $0.0231 per pound. Sequentially, market prices were lower by $0.01 per pound, and our mix improved by the same amount for flat pricing sequentially. We remain constructive on our outlook for the tray pack markets during 2020.
Both leg quarter prices were approximately 20.6% higher during the quarter compared to last years fourth quarter. And for the full year were higher by 1.3% compared to fiscal 2018.
Urner Barry quoted market prices for leg quarters averaged $0.341 per pound during the fourth quarter and $0.335 for the fiscal year. Total industry export volume for the calendar year through October was up slightly compared to 2018.
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Market prices for boneless breast during our fourth quarter were lower by 1% compared to the fourth quarter a year ago, but were significantly lower than historical averages even post Labor Day. The quoted market price for boneless averaged $0.944 per pound during the fourth quarter, and $1.06 per pound for the fiscal year. Boneless breast prices weakened substantially post Labor Day and the Urner Barry market price for jumbo boneless breast is currently $0.98 per pound.
Jumbo wing market prices during our fourth quarter averaged $1.73 per pound, up 19% from the average of $1.46 per pound during last years fourth quarter.
For the year, jumbo wing prices were higher by 19.9% from an average of $1.44 per pound during 2018 to an average of $1.72 per pound during 2019. The current Urner Barry quote for jumbo wings is $1.57 per pound.
Our average sales price for poultry products during the full fiscal year was higher by $0.024 per pound compared to last year, increasing 3.5% for the year ended October 31, 2019, when compared to the year ended October 31, 2018.
For the full fiscal year, feed costs in broilers processed were lower by $0.001 per pound or 0.5%.
For the fourth quarter, our overall cash costs for grain delivered to our feed mills were higher than last years fourth quarter.
Prices paid for corn delivered during our fourth quarter were higher by 12.8% compared to last years fourth quarter while soybean prices were lower by 8.4%.
Our feed cost per pound and broiler flock processed were lower by $0.0025 or 0.9% during this years fourth quarter compared to a year ago.
During this years fourth fiscal quarter, we processed 1.28 billion pounds of breast poultry and sold 1.27 billion pounds. We processed 4.61 billion pounds during fiscal 2019 and sold 4.53 billion pounds.
For those of you modeling fiscal 2020, we currently expect to process 4.9 billion pounds of breast poultry during fiscal 2020, which would represent a 6.3% increase in pounds processed compared to fiscal 2019. If we run our plants as expected, those pounds would be processed as follows: 1.14 billion in Q1, 1.22 billion in Q2, 1.28 billion in Q3 and 1.26 billion in Q4.
Of course, these estimates are subject to change as a result of weather changes in target live weights, market conditions and other factors.
Like Joe, Im grateful for everyone associated with Sanderson Farms, employees, growers, customers and vendors and look forward to the new year.
At this point, Ill turn the call over to Mike for a discussion of the quarters financial results.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Thank you, Lampkin. Net sales for the fourth fiscal quarter totaled $906.5 million, and thats up from $798.1 million for the same quarter during fiscal 2018. The increase in net sales for the quarter reflects an increase in pounds of poultry products sold of 10.5% and a 4.5% increase in our average sales price for poultry products compared to last years fourth quarter.
Our cost of sales of poultry products for the quarter ended October 31, increased 13.6%, reflecting a slight decrease in cost of feed and boneless processed an increase of $0.018 per pound in nonfeed-related COGS and the additional pounds sold.
For the full fiscal year, net sales totaled $3.44 billion, up 6.3% from $3.24 billion in fiscal 2018. Cost of sales for the year increased 6.2% compared to a year ago and totaled $3.16 billion. The average cost per pound in our poultry business increased $0.02 per pound or 3.4% compared to last fiscal year, reflecting higher nonfeed-related cost of goods sold and relatively flat feed cost. Nonfeed-related COGS were up were $0.4021 per pound during fiscal 2019, up $0.0272 per pound compared to fiscal 18 and up $0.045 per pound compared to 17.
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Lab costs were up just under $0.01 a pound compared to fiscal 2018 on higher chip cost and higher grower pay.
Labor costs were higher by $0.01 a pound, fixed costs were higher by $0.005 per pound and other costs, consisting primarily of maintenance and antimicrobial interventions in the plant are higher by just under $0.015 cent per pound.
The reclassification of freight that is separately invoiced to customers from a reduction in COGS to in addition to revenue, added another $0.005 a pound. Inefficiencies at Tyler cost $0.0033 a pound, well capture those efficiencies at Tyler when we get to full production next spring. However, I will point out that we were down a week at our Brazos, Texas facility and down a week in Macon to install new equipment during this first quarter of fiscal 2020 and will also be down a week during Q2 of 2020 at Moultrie as we complete the equipment upgrades at all of our plants.
We sold 23.9 million more pounds of prepared chicken, a 22.6% increase, and our net sales price averaged $0.095 per pound lower or a 4.9% decrease.
SG&A expenses for fiscal 19 were lower by $10.8 million compared to fiscal 18 due, primarily, to a decrease in advertising expenses, training expenses, start-up costs and other expenses. Offset by increases in legal costs, administrative salaries and the reclassification of sales commissions as SG&A costs.
For fiscal 2020, were modeling $197.3 million for SG&A. That estimate includes no accruals for bonus comp or the ESOP. Both of those items are dependent on profitability, and well consider profitability as we move through the year and adjust this estimate accordingly. We estimate SG&A expenses of $49.5 million in Q1, $48.5 million in Q2, $48.5 million in Q3 and $50.8 million in Q4.
At the end of the fiscal year, our balance sheet reflected stockholders equity of $1.42 billion and net working capital of $365.4 million. For the year, we spent $250 million on CapEx improvements, and we paid $28.3 million in dividends.
For fiscal 2019, interest expense was $4.2 million, an increase of $2.1 million over 2018. We had $55 million in debt on the balance sheet at year-end. Our effective tax rate was 16.5% during the year, and that is because the company recognized a $2.1 million discrete income tax benefit due to certain income tax credits during the year. Absent all discrete items, our effective tax rate would have been 23.6%. And going forward, we continue to model an effective tax rate of 24.4%, exclusive of discrete items.
We expect our CapEx for construction, maintenance and special projects during fiscal 2020 to be approximately $198.3 million and to be funded by cash on hand, internally generated working capital, cash flows from operations and as needed, liquidity provided by our revolving credit facility. Of that total, $41.5 million is expected to be spent on equipment upgrades at several plants, $15 million for our new hatchery in Jones County, Mississippi to replace and expand the hatchery currently serving the Laurel, Mississipi complex, $11.3 million for vehicles, which in past years might have been leased and $130.5 million for annual maintenance.
The company has a $1 billion unsecured revolving credit facility, of which $923.4 million was available at October 31, 2019.
Our depreciation and amortization during fiscal 19 totaled $134.4 million, and we expect approximately $154.6 million for 2020. The way were modeling that is $37.4 million in depreciation in Q1, $38.8 million in Q2, $38.9 million in Q3 and $39.5 million in Q4.
And with that, Ill turn the call back over to Joe for comments about our grain strategy and thoughts on 2020.
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DECEMBER 19, 2019 / 4:00PM, SAFM - Q4 2019 Sanderson Farms Inc Earnings Call
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Thank you, Mike. Our feed cost per pound during fiscal 2019 were flat with the previous year and represented the seventh straight year of relatively flat feed cost. Given the supply of feed grain and uncertainties regarding trade issues we continued to expect relatively benign feed costs during fiscal 2020. If we had locked in prices for all of our needs for fiscal 2020, including what we have already priced at current values, that is if using the Chicago Board of Trade contract prices for current and future needs as it closed last night, our cash cost for grain during fiscal 2020 would be $22.4 million higher than during fiscal 2019 based on 2019 volumes. Given that the carryout of both corn and soybeans remains healthy, despite challenges with the 2019 crops in the United States and given ample worldwide supplies of both grains, we should be able to buy grain at prices only slightly higher than last year. Corn basis values remain elevated as farmers remain reluctant sellers at current board prices. We have taken opportunities to price our corn needs through December and our soybean meal needs through March, and we remain patient for now on the rest of the year. We own our corn basis through March as well.
As always, on this year-end call, Ill share a few things were watching closely as we start a new fiscal year. First, as always, we will keep one eye on the South American crops. As of today, the corn and soy crops in Brazil and the rest of South America are progressing normally. Second, we will watch the United States Planting Intentions report next March. Most everyone believes corn acres will increase in 2020 while soybean acres will decrease, and we will closely watch that report. Third, we will watch chicken production numbers. USDA estimates that the industry will produce approximately 3.2% more pounds of chicken during calendar 2020 compared to 2019. Looking at egg sets, chick placements, pullet placements and the size of the hen flock, we believe the USDAs estimate is reasonable.
Several facilities and expansions have been completed, including our Tyler, Texas complex, and we understand some publicly available information that a couple more expansion projects have either started operations or are near completion. These will add new production in our industry over the next few years or so. Whether or not and to what extent that new production exceeds demand for chicken remains to be seen. What we will do is continue to execute our growth strategy, continue to look for a site for our next plant and that the markets take care of themselves.
We will, of course, also be watching the chicken markets. Market prices for boneless breast meat produced at our big bird plants for the food service market have moved counter-seasonally higher over the past few weeks. The same is true for dark meat prices. As we have mentioned several times recently, we saw fewer than normal features for chicken from food service establishments during 2019 and during calendar 2020 calendar 2019. That said, we are encouraged by the current chicken sandwich war in the QSR market, and we wish all the participants much success.
As Lampkin said, we feel good about retail grocery demand going forward, at least for everyday business, volume during 2019 suffered from a lack of feature activity of grocery stores as many chose to take advantage of relatively low wholesale prices for beef and pork during the year. Of course, the product produced at our retail grocery plants doesnt go to a go into a tray to get sold at grocery stores, it is packed bulk and competes in an already soft food-service market. However, if market prices for beef and pork move higher during 2020, as many are expecting, chicken could certainly draw more features.
Finally, we will keep a close eye on the impact of African swine fever on the protein and chicken markets. While there remain conflicting reports on the exact number of hogs lost to the disease in China and other Asian countries, the fact that the world is facing an unprecedented protein deficit over the short term is real, exactly what the impact on chicken markets will be is unknowable. However, we are very encouraged that we are once again eligible to ship product to China and expect a material benefit from the open market. We are packing paws at all of our processing plants for exports to China. At full production, we will produce approximately 87 million pounds of chicken feed per year. And at current pricing, estimate a $71 million operating income benefit annually from shipping chicken feed to China.
We start the new year in good shape. Chicken markets are improving, feed costs are relatively flat, our balance sheet is strong. We start fiscal 2020 with little debt and the company is well positioned to continue our growth strategy in the future. The new Tyler complex demonstrates our optimism and confidence in the long-term success of Sanderson Farms and our industry. The new complex will add value for our investors, opportunities for our employees and their communities and more high-quality products for new customers. We remain committed to continuing our growth beyond Tyler and look forward to finding a site soon. Market conditions are improving as we start the year, and we believe the optimism surrounding the chicken industry as we move into the new calendar year is warranted.
With that, we will now take your questions.
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QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
Operator
(Operator Instructions) And well take our first question from Jonathan Feeney with Consumer Edge.
Jonathan Patrick Feeney - Consumer Edge Research, LLC - Senior Analyst of Food & HPC, Director of research and Managing Partner
Joe, could you tell us what that $71 million from chicken feet? How does that compare with your peak profitability from that product shipping into China in the past? And can you refresh my memory on new, not sure not new, but back to the name to when that stopped?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
I didnt hear the second half.
Jonathan Patrick Feeney - Consumer Edge Research, LLC - Senior Analyst of Food & HPC, Director of research and Managing Partner
Yes, when did that stop? How does it compare with your peak profitability in that product in the past and when did that stop?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
January of 2015 when we was the ban was put in place, we stopped packing. That year cost us $40 million before tax. This year, of course, we have more volume and the market is a little better, so were estimating $71 million. China lifted the ban on U.S. poultry on November 14 on November 22, all of the Sanderson plants were added to the USDA export library, which approved us to pack for China. November 25, we began packing paws at every plant for exports to China, and we put our first paws on the water in a container on December 5. So were packing and we started shipping on the 5th, and well continue to ship as product is ready.
Jonathan Patrick Feeney - Consumer Edge Research, LLC - Senior Analyst of Food & HPC, Director of research and Managing Partner
Thats really, really helpful. And if I could ask one follow-up. How about your other how about other chicken parts into China? Could you talk a little bit about the outlook for I know historically, theres been just very limited demand for a lot of chicken parts, but any comment you could have about that the prospects for things precisely into the China for 2020?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Here is what we think. The Chinese have been very cautious about pricing, theyve paid a little too much for some product when they started buying heavily outside from some other suppliers. So theyre being very cautious about pricing. But heres what we think is going to happen, we think in the early part of January, theyre going to sign the agreement with the United States. And then over the next 60 to 90 days after that, the tariffs will come off. We think were going to sell some products to them in January, though. And but it maybe that there will be tariffs on that initial product.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
35%.
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Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Yes, with and a value-added tax in addition to that. But eventually 60 to 90 days after that, that tariff comes off, and we will be more competitive. Theres also a tariff on Brazilian chicken, an anti-dumping tariff we think. We know theres a tariff. And once that tariff comes off on chicken and just as importantly for us on pork, thats another big deal for us, that when those tariffs come off as a result of signing that Phase 1 trade agreement, which we think may be March before that all that happens, but well ship product before that. We think that will happen in January. A whole muscle Im talking about.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Weve had inquiries from China for drumsticks, whole legs and leg quarters, some leg quarters and some boneless dark meat.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Boneless. Dark meat. Yes.
Operator
Well take our next question from Michael Piken with Cleveland Research.
Michael Leith Piken - Cleveland Research Company - Equity Analyst
Yes. Just wanted to sort of follow-up and get your thoughts in terms of what its going to take to get the breast meat market going? I mean, I know you talked a little bit about the chicken more as I know that some of that is more small bird. But how do we get the big breast feed market going? Is it going to be bit more dark meat and pork meat (inaudible), its going to be more featuring or (inaudible) outlook for that product?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Probably, to me, in my mind, it will take a combination of things. It will take some meat going to export and when I say meat, Im talking about poultry, beef and pork, all of that, maybe and then it will take some features at retail grocery stores, it will take some features at in QSR, its going to take all of that for breast meat to move. But it will. Thats lining up to happen. All of that is lining up to happen.
Michael Leith Piken - Cleveland Research Company - Equity Analyst
Okay. So in terms of the timing standpoint, do you think (inaudible) price is typically rallying in January? But I mean, do you think that its possible that we could start to see soft meat prices return to maybe the levels of like 5 years ago? And some products, other product reason. Is there any chance that any breast meat could get exported to China or elsewhere? Or whether thats strictly going to be a domestic product?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
You have a low rally in January, but breast meat normally moves most in March. The biggest move in breast meat is normally in March. And then again and it moves significantly, it moves in the summer. But I believe its March.
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D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
The last 2 years, boneless has gone up 40% in March. Both years, we got a little optimistic about the rest of the year after that move in March, and it kind of leveled out. But the last 2 years theres been thats been the big move.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Yes. You get a little bump in January, but your biggest move is in March.
Michael Leith Piken - Cleveland Research Company - Equity Analyst
All right, great. And then the last question, just if you could talk a little bit about whats happening with wings and if you expect the Super Bowl rally for wing prices in (inaudible)?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Well, weve mentioned this in my comment, wing prices at $1.57 are higher than they were a year ago. Weve really been surprised. We havent been as short this football season as we normally are. And we would expect to bring this to be higher than that. But I think going into New Years and bowl games and followed by the Super Bowl, Im optimistic about wing prices.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
We think with wings being at $1.74 level that a lot of operators and boneless breast, being at weve had a lot of operators using boneless wings and instead of $1.70 wings right after Labor Day.
Operator
Our next question will come from Ken Goldman with JP Morgan.
Kenneth B. Goldman - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - Senior Analyst
I wanted to ask 2 questions, if I can. First, Joe, you had some nonrecurring costs, I guess in 2019. Are there legal expenses were up? Some inefficiencies in the production side? And you guys were also talking about having some down weeks in terms of production just to get those plants a little bit more efficient this year. How do we think about sort of the balance between is there any way to quantify, I guess, some of the costs, whether theyre COGS or SG&A that hit you last year that may or maybe are not coming back this year versus some of the new ones? Im just trying to get some kind of sense for how to model that because theres a lot of moving pieces there.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Well, I know you had $13 million at Tyler that you will not have. How much training costs will be down this next year? $7 million or $8 million?
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Well, it was this year, and its going to be down another $2 million next year.
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Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
But youll have the $7 million.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Thats right.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
$7 million plus, so youve got a $9 million (inaudible). I dont think we can I think were going to have to not do the legal I mean, youre going to say the legal expenses, theres going to be legal expense for another year or 2. There were 3 things we...
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Yes. Inefficiencies at Tyler is $0.0033 a pound, and youll get that back when the full by the spring. And the down days at all of our plants...
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
We had 7, in this year you have 3.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Thats right.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
There was 3 things we were looking at though.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Advertising?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
No. No youre not going to have the advertising, neither. But there were 3 things.
Operator
Well take our next question from Heather Jones with Heather Jones Research.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Okay. Ill get back with Ken on that. Heather?
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Operator
Please check your mute function?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
I dont hear Heather.
Heather Lynn Jones - Heather Jones Research LLC - Founder
Are you all able to hear me?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
There she is. Yes. Yes.
Heather Lynn Jones - Heather Jones Research LLC - Founder
Okay, okay. Going back to, you say in the days that you all were down for equipment upgrades, theres going to be 3 of those in 2020, but there was 7 in 19. Did you all give a number for that? So how much of that could be a reduction in cost?
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
No. In the in our...
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Volume.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
In our second and third quarters of 2019, it costs us $0.0033 a pound each quarter. I dont know exactly I think it will cost us about that again.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Less than the first quarter.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Well, for the full year, right. But in the first quarter, we have 2 plants, which is what we had during last years second quarter. So Im going to say $0.0033 a pound, Heather, in the first quarter. In which by the way, the first quarter is already challenged with 4 holidays and down days ahead of critical volume and Thanksgiving.
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Heather Lynn Jones - Heather Jones Research LLC - Founder
Right. Going on to China, Joe, you mentioned that you think that in January, even with the tariffs still in place that youll ship the industry will ship some product to China. And did I hear you say whole muscle, so youre thinking products in addition to pause?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Yes.
Heather Lynn Jones - Heather Jones Research LLC - Founder
Okay, okay. And I just wanted to ask you guys about the whole cold storage facility issue. When do you all expect them to approve that list?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
In December, 25.
Heather Lynn Jones - Heather Jones Research LLC - Founder
What?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
25th of December.
Heather Lynn Jones - Heather Jones Research LLC - Founder
So you are going to give us that as our Christmas present?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Yes. Thats what were expecting. And we heard that from the USDA. USDA reported that.
Heather Lynn Jones - Heather Jones Research LLC - Founder
Okay. And do you think its going to be an actual announcement? Or is it just how are you expecting it to be handled?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
The way I understood it was, the list has been submitted to them. And if they do not publish it, theyll all be approved automatically. If they dont inspect them, theyre not going to inspect all. Theyre going to be approved automatically just like they did the plants. They are all all are on the list before.
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D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Yes.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
And all the plants were on the list before. So theyre going to approve them de facto.
Heather Lynn Jones - Heather Jones Research LLC - Founder
So basically, if we dont hear may December 25, then its approved?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Yes, thats right.
Heather Lynn Jones - Heather Jones Research LLC - Founder
Okay. And then I just want to talk about cash. So if the supply shortage turns out to be as expected, you all should generate some pretty good cash flow. Can you give us a sense of your priorities for that?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Well, our first priority would be to build another complex, but we dont feel like we can do that, right, just a minute. So in my mind, it would be a special dividend, which is what weve done historically and prepare to build the plant. Those are the 2 things.
Heather Lynn Jones - Heather Jones Research LLC - Founder
(inaudible) plant.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Yes.
Operator
And well take our next question, well return with Ken Goldman with JP Morgan.
Kenneth B. Goldman - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - Senior Analyst
I think drew heard your deliberations as silence. I know you guys...
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DECEMBER 19, 2019 / 4:00PM, SAFM - Q4 2019 Sanderson Farms Inc Earnings Call
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
I dont know what happened. I cant get it out of my guys, but we identified 3 things, and I cant get it out of them. And I will get back to you. There were 3 things we identified to and it was training cost that was going away. Legal expenses are going away. And what?
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Start-up.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
And start-up. Those 3 things are going to go away, and it was $0.01 a pound, but the legal are not going away next year and that was (inaudible) a pound theyre going to disappear from.
Kenneth B. Goldman - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - Senior Analyst
Okay. And then just a very quick one. You were mentioning that the first quarter has a reasonable number of headwinds. Was the messaging theremore about just typical seasonality? Or was it more about a certain number of headwinds that maybe are unusual to the first quarter of 2020?
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
No, those 4 holidays are every year, down days ahead of Thanksgiving and Hanukkah and Christmas are every year. The things we will have this year is Macon was down all last week, getting its equipment upgrade, and you were down in Brazos in November. So you had those additional down days on top of the lower volume you normally get. Yes, no. But youre absolutely right, Ken, those are every year, except for the additional down days.
Operator
Our next question will come from Ben Theurer with Barclays.
Benjamin M. Theurer - Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division - Head of the Mexico Equity Research & Director
Joe, Lampkin and Mike congrats on the results. Just wanted to follow-up on the $71 million figure youve mentioned operating income benefit for paws to China. Is that obviously, it includes would it include for full year with the current tariff for paws to go to China? Because youve mentioned you expect those tariffs to fade away. So when you gave the $71 million, is that inclusive of tariffs going away? Or is that still with tariffs and actually the number could be higher if tariffs were to go away and you would actually get a bit of pricing out of the paws you ship?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Could be higher if the tariffs go away.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Well, let me here, look, we are we have 3 plants that have never packed paws before, Palestine, Tyler and St. Pauls. And we are just starting up. And so to be really good, you need to pack 65% to 70% of your paws as grade A paws. And were not there yet. Were not 100% efficient. Were not packing 65% to 70% at those 3 plants. And were really not there at any of the other plants either. So weve got we probably will be there by the end of January. We started packing November the...
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DECEMBER 19, 2019 / 4:00PM, SAFM - Q4 2019 Sanderson Farms Inc Earnings Call
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
25th.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
25th. So its going to take us a couple of months to get up to capacity and get everybody trained. Nobody, really nobody. The people in the plants, the division managers had done it before and maybe some are superintendents, but no employee at the plant had done that. And so were just ramping up right now. And but the answer to the question is that when the tariffs go away, your margin probably going to go up a little bit.
Benjamin M. Theurer - Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division - Head of the Mexico Equity Research & Director
Okay. Perfect. That tariff would be just additional incremental. And can you remind us what the actual tariff right now is on paws?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Its 35% tariff. Plus, theres a value added tax, and I dont know how much you think is? Its 10% or 12% for the value-added tax. Now thats not going to go away. The value-added tax will go away to 35% is what we believe will go away. And thats they have actually pork has a 70% tariff on it, but they have been waiting the pork tariffs for the last 45 days. And theyve allowed some people to bring in some pork. We think that will but theyre not bringing in as much volume as they could be bringing in. I cant remember what we read that. Who said?
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
I think Steiner and the...
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Yes. How much did he say?
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Well, yes. One estimate out there by somebody in the industry is, it that the pork industry could export as much as 30% or 32% of their production in 2020. Thats the high end of what Ive seen, but there will still be a lot of product going into that export market.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
They could use that, much.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
They could use that much.
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Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
And thats important that is as important as chicken over there.
Benjamin M. Theurer - Barclays Bank PLC, Research Division - Head of the Mexico Equity Research & Director
Okay. Perfect. All right. And then just one question. I mean, thank you very much for all the breakdown you gave on the nonfeed-related cost. And if we take a look at your outlook in terms of cost into next year and also SG&A, it seems to be a little lower than where it was in 2019. Can you elaborate where the saving comes from, particularly on the SG&A side because that seems to be a lower number, close to $200 million versus what weve been seeing in 2019, which was more like $200 million and $210 million, $211 million? So there is about a 5% savings. So where does that come from? Is it marketing? Is it labor? Whats driving that number down on a year-over-year basis for SG&A?
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Yes, Ill tell you that $9.4 million of it is the absence of startup cost. Youll recall that we started the Tyler plant in February. Our January, you had start-up cost in November and December, which was last years first fiscal quarter. So $9 million there, $1.8 million additional savings in trainee cost, legal expenses, weve optimistically, probably, naively have reduced by $3 million for next year. ESOP, we dont we didnt include an ESOP accrual, and we had a $3 million accrual in fiscal 2019. So then that will be offset by yes, offset by an increase of $2.8 million in administrative salaries and small increase in some other things.
Lampkin Butts - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - President, COO & Director
What is marketing compared advertising expenses is flat. Flat. (inaudible) dollars.
Operator
Our next question will come from Ben Bienvenu with Stephens.
Benjamin Shelton Bienvenu - Stephens Inc., Research Division - MD
I wanted to ask, Joe, you made some comments about corn basis. I know you all had a hard time pricing basis. I just want to get your sense of relative to a few weeks ago or a month ago, is it getting any easier to price basis? And what are you all looking for? What do you think farmers arelooking for that basis to break and normalize?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
The power to price basis for the fiscal year, which Im not going to do, it would be at $0.24 a bushel. Lets see, thats 82, 18 yes, $0.24 a bushel. We priced through March. Our price, January, February, March, last week, and it was about $0.18 a werent it about $0.18?
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Yes. (inaudible)
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Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
And but I had some truck corn about from for Texas and Mississippi and North Carolina that was less expensive, and it kind of blended that down a little bit. But the farmers are just upset, irritated. They had a bad planning, and then they had perfect pollination and perfect rain. So theyve made more than they thought they were going to make better yields and now they are having not this week, but Monday a week ago, there were still 900 million bushels of corn in the field, they cant get it out. And thats problematic for them and for the supply. But they want theyd like to get it out and get it in the bin. And so theyve had a bad time with this crop, and they dont want to sell it for corns rallied in the last 2 weeks, it was $3.75 a bushel on the board and the basis was negative $0.40 to $0.50 a bushel, particularly where this corn is. In Minnesota and Wisconsin and North Dakota its probably $0.60 a bushel negative, up there. And just a bad its been a bad crop for them. And I understand that its like selling boneless breast for $0.70 a pound, I dont like that either.
Benjamin Shelton Bienvenu - Stephens Inc., Research Division - MD
Thats helpful. And then, Mike, I want to ask about freight rates. I know you guys have the accounting changes for freight in 2019. Putting that aside, it sounds like freight rates are going to be better in 2020. And Im wondering if you could give us a sense of what exposure you guys have to contract versus spot? And what you think about freight rates into 2020? It seems like it could be a nice tailwind.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Yes. It could be. They go out we did a lot of lanes for the full year. The logistics team downstairs, looks at where theyre going to be shipping product, and theyll go out to be it for those lanes and get a lot of them priced in January. And then they fill in during the year. So if prices come down or go up, were exposed to that, but most of it is priced for the year. Lampkin, I havent heard any numbers yet.
Lampkin Butts - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - President, COO & Director
Theyre not going up. I dont know if were going to save a lot of money, but were not expecting (inaudible).
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
So I dont have a number yet. But its a good question, and well fill that in on the February call after we get everything priced in January.
Operator
Our next question will come from Eric Larson with Buckingham Research.
Eric Jon Larson - The Buckingham Research Group Incorporated - Analyst
So Joe, we talked Im forgetting some of the timing here, I guess its age that I have an excuse for. But you took you made a conscious decision to bump your salaries up for your employees. I think we talked about it in March or April and then you felt...
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
June 2.
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Eric Jon Larson - The Buckingham Research Group Incorporated - Analyst
Okay. So you also felt that you had the ability to improve your efficiency, it approves a series of efficiencies that would pay for that. And I think you probably get some benefit of that this year. But is that maybe going to help be a tailwind in 2020 as well? Or would that be more of a neutral cost impact?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
I think, neutral. We actually, were going to start out the year. Let me just put this in content. Were going to start out 2020 in much better shape in the plants than we did in 2019 as far as yields in the plants, all of the plants or the yields are much better. And every plant we have, theyre all every one of them are close to the top 25%. All of the big bird plants are in the top 25%. And all but one of the tray packs are in the top 25%. We hadnt done that and that I attribute that both to the management and also to the fact that we are staffed at all those plants. Our pricing at all the tray pack plants are excellent. And its been a year-long process, getting that. And live production is, again, had another great year. Theyre in the top 10%. And Im attributing that to the pay that we did. And were pretty close to our live weight target. Now one thing we have, what we call an extra board, which is about 10% of the labor force. And most of these plants have never had an extra board, and theyve never managed an extra board, which is never were able to hire enough and the trick with an extra board is bringing them in, let them work 3 hours and then asking for volunteers to go home. Get them trained and then let people go home. Extra boards cover absentees and people are out on leaves and...
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Vacation.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Pardon?
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Vacation.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Vacations and things like that. Well, were hired up full everywhere. They have extra boards. So for the first 3, 4, 5 months, we had too many people in the plant, and they had to learn how to manage those extra boards, and well get that done pretty quickly. And but I think that have been back on good packing the tray pack plants are excellent, their costs are excellent. The big boning plants are the ones that hadnt really gotten back, I would say, to neutral, yes. Theyre still havent gone through a lot of training. But I think that all will be fine soon.
Eric Jon Larson - The Buckingham Research Group Incorporated - Analyst
Got it. So is it is the issue with still building a new plant here? Is it still finding adequate labor in any of the regions that you would like to put them in? Is that the constricting factor?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Yes. We hadnt identified a site where theres ample labor. And I think its not a good time to be looking for contractors. And its not a good time. I think material costs are very expensive right now. This is not a good time to be we just bid off a hatchery, a small hatchery in Jones County. And we were it came in a little a good bit higher than we thought it would. Its just material, theres concrete and steel, and all the its very expensive right now.
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Operator
Well take our next question from Adam Samuelson with Goldman Sachs.
Adam L. Samuelson - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division - Equity Analyst
Joe, Lampkin, Mike, I was hoping to get a little more color on the retail market. Maybe just I know this is a slower time of the year from a retail perspective, but are you getting any kind of visibility on featuring picking up through the first quarter? And any comments you could have just around just some of the base contracting kind of activity for 2020 and just making sure your products got the space at the retailers where you want it?
Lampkin Butts - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - President, COO & Director
We January is shaping up nicely as far as boneless breast features at retail, which is years of January usually is like that. Usually, January is a big month for features, especially on boneless breast. A lot of people make their new years resolutions regarding their diets and they want to eat healthy, so they go to chicken, and a lot of them go to boneless breast. So thats developing nicely for our customer base for January. Im not sure I understood the second question.
Adam L. Samuelson - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division - Equity Analyst
Just contract are you seeing I mean, just I mean, are you guys sold out in any contracting commentary just in terms of making sure you got the customer base set and you guys (inaudible) the retailers that you want to be in?
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
We had, but youre starting to move. Were still selling the new production out of Tyler. That all of that product is not placed exactly where we want it to be. But we are starting up 2 new accounts in January that will both be beneficial for that Tyler plant and be a good link toward getting that plant completely sold out. We still have some to sell and got a number of retailers were talking to about that.
Adam L. Samuelson - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division - Equity Analyst
Okay. And then maybe just in on the food service side with QSRs with the chicken sandwich war. Just are you guys seeing kind of orders justfor some of those further processors? Are they pulling in jumbo breast meat? I know a lot of its been small bird, but are you seeing some other start to stockpile jumbo boneless breast as a competitive response? Or just any activity in that part of the channel?
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
We are not seeing that. We sell a number of further processors, and theyre buying. Their orders are normal, but were not seeing any ramp-up.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Wait. Adam, its Joe. We think this move in boneless breast that we saw, when it went from, I dont know.
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Lampkin Butts - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - President, COO & Director
88 to 98.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
88 to 98. We think that was further processors, pulling in boneless in anticipation of higher prices in the first quarter. And so they were buying the but we dont know that if it was for any special feature or anything. We just think they were stockpiling some cheaper boneless because they thought boneless breast were going to move up in spring.
Operator
Our next question will come from Robert Moskow Crédit Suisse.
Robert Bain Moskow - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division - Research Analyst
This is my last earnings call. Yes, I didnt expect so many questions about cost. I think my initiation had 30 pages on chicken pricing in China. So maybe I need to sharpen my mind on your cost structure and all the complexity. My goodness. But one thing I was hoping maybe you could kind of pull it all together for us on is that if I look at your EBIT this year and what consensus is for next year, its like a $200 million improvement baked in. And is there any way to kind of tie it together and say, how much of that you can get to just from self-help through all of these operational efficiencies or just easier comparisons? And then maybe even layer into that the chicken paws shipment opportunity, how much is that? Maybe havent prepared it that way, but I was just curious. And then I had a follow-up.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
We let me we think internally some stuff we can do internally, there is $50 million to $80 million that weve identified that we can do. And that has to do with yields at our plants, has to do with some packaging improvements, it has to do with some getting Tyler sold out, getting in the right mix in Tyler. It has to do with weve put in a lot of dark meat deboning. We dont have all that sold well and things like that. There are some other things, but those are some of the warrants. So we think $50 million to $80 million we can do internally. Those we call those our operational goals. And we identified those at the end of the fiscal year, and then the rest of it is going to be helped from the market. And we think that this African swine fever, this protein shortage, its not just chicken, its I want to emphasize that chicken is going to be a part of it, but moving chicken is going to be up 3%., the pork is going to be up 5% in production on top of what it was in 2019, which was, I believe, 4.5%. Its just as important that the U.S. export pork and beef to China and other countries in Asia. So we had we believe, and thats a forward-looking statement, that the market is going to be as much help as or more than what were going to do ourselves. And thats where you would get the improvement.
Robert Bain Moskow - Crédit Suisse AG, Research Division - Research Analyst
Right. And then my follow-up was on that 3% increase production. Theres been a multiyear increase in industry capacity from new plant construction. And my sense was that 2020 would kind of be the end of that, maybe a 3- or 4-year cycle. Is that how you would characterize it to based on what youre seeing competition doing? Or is it theyre kind of like a spillover effect from all that capacity that would add incremental pound in 2021 as well?
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Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
I would think you would see 2021 as well. If you look at the egg sets and chick placements, I dont have that in front of me, but I believe youll note I was looking at it an executive committee, and we were looking at 7 million and 8 million eggs and 7 million and 8 million chicks a week over a year ago. And if youll add up the amount publicly announced and where they are, that doesnt add up to 7 million and 8 million, that adds up to half of that. The Sanderson, the Mount Air, the Rayford Costco has just got started. So theyre not they started Labor day. Theyre not and Simmons is just theyre not there. There are some other people that have increased production that didnt announce. And so theres much more there that didnt announce, and they have increased production. I dont know that the Tyson plant is open yet. So theyre at 2021 and 2022. And Simmons built a bigger plant than and theyre going to be at 2021, 22. And I believe Rayford, perhaps Rayford, built a bigger plant than they had. So theyre going to be at 2021, 22. And its at and Costco will be at 2021. They will ramp up to full production in 20, I wouldnt think. I think theyll be at 2021. So I think you got, 2020 and 2021.
Operator
Our next question will come from Peter Galbo with Bank of America.
Peter Thomas Galbo - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Associate
Just 2 quick ones for me. Joe, Id love to just get your commentary on the opportunity in China. The U.S. trade representative came out and said that it would be kind of around a $1 billion opportunity for the industry. There have been some headlines out this morning that it could be as much as double that. So I just want to kind of try and gauge how large that the overall opportunity of China you think could be?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
I have no clue about the size. I mean, how many people there, but they prefer pork and its huge, though. I mean, that the limitation is going to be vessels and ships and cold storage in China and things like that. And I will also remind everybody that there is a ceiling on prices. Before, its theyre being very cautious about prices right now. Weve talked to them, and I havent, we got them with our salespeople have. And theyve been very deliberate about prices and so theyre good buyers. And were cautious, but I dont have a clue about how much. But its going to be a good opportunity for us, I believe.
Peter Thomas Galbo - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - Associate
Got it. Okay. And Mike, I dont know if youve provided this in your prepared comments or not, but did you give a feed cost per pound estimate for the first quarter?
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
No. And we dont typically do that. Weve priced our, as Joe said, he priced the corn through December. Hes got it all priced through the first quarter and into March, but we dont typically do to that.
Youll have some of the October corn. October was high price corn. So youll have that pricing going into replacing order. And then youve got cheaper corn after that. And I dont know about soy. Its similar. Nothing significantly changed from Q4 to Q1. Absolutely (inaudible) basis.
Operator
And well take our next question from Ben Mayhew with Bank of Montreal.
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Benjamin Mayhew
So just one question. At your Investor Day this year, I believe it was EMI who said that chicken exports would need to increase roughly 10% to get chicken margins back to normal levels. Is that thinking still apply here?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Yes. Exports would need to go up 10% for chicken prices to normalize.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
I dont remember that.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Yes. I dont remember that, but I dont know. It feels like thats going to happen, but I dont remember that.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Who said that?
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
EMI said that. EMI had a kind of a bleak outlook for price.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
Yes. Yes. Theyre just saying that because of the increase in supply, domestically, of course. There are a lot more moving parts to that than just exports here.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
I mean, to me, you get 2 or 3 things that are on the horizon. You have export chickens to China. You have exports of pork and beef to China and you have the possibility of a very large player featuring a chicken sandwich in the United States. And if that if you will go back in history and look and see what happens when that particular player features chicken in the United States.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
This seems pretty good.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc.Chairman & CEO
Its not a bad situation. And its not one thing thats happening, and theres a multitude of things that are on the horizon.
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D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
And if beef and pork go up, we get more features at retail and then you get pricing benefit from that.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Thats what Im talking about. So Im talking about beef and pork being exported.
D. Michael Cockrell - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - CFO, Treasurer & Director
The same retail, the same player is also going to feature a breakfast chicken biscuit starting in 2020, trying to stand off some competition from some others that are going to start doing breakfast.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Yes. So there are a lot of things happening. Its not just one thing.
Operator
And this does conclude todays question-and-answer session. Id like to turn the conference back over to Joe Sanderson for additional or closing remarks.
Joe F. Sanderson - Sanderson Farms, Inc. - Chairman & CEO
Thank you, and thank you for spending time with us. On behalf of everyone at Sanderson Farms, Happy Honica and Merry Christmas and happy, prosperous and peaceful New Year to everyone. Thank you.
Operator
And this does conclude todays call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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Exhibit 99.3
Contact: Mike Cockrell
Chief Legal and Financial Officer
And Treasurer
(601) 649-4030
SANDERSON FARMS ANNOUNCES
RETIREMENT OF BOARD MEMBER ROBERT KHAYAT
LAUREL, Miss. (December 23, 2019) Sanderson Farms, Inc. (NASDAQ: SAFM) today announced that Robert C. Khayat has informed the Company that he will retire from the Sanderson Farms Board of Directors effective December 31, 2019.
Robert Khayat has been a valued member of the Sanderson Farms Board of Directors since 2007, stated Joe F. Sanderson, Jr., chairman and chief executive officer of Sanderson Farms, Inc. He brought a unique perspective to the Company with his extensive academic leadership experience and distinguished legal career. He brought to our Board the same commitment to diversity and inclusion he demonstrated throughout his career. We are grateful for his important work in serving on our Audit and Compensation Committees and for his invaluable contributions toward building our corporate culture and increasing long-term shareholder value. We will miss his insight, advice and the thoughtful perspective he provided as a Board member, and we wish Robert and his family all the best in his retirement.
Khayat is the Retired Chancellor of the University of Mississippi. He held this leadership role from 1995 to 2009, where he presided over a period of extensive growth and significant transformation for the university. He previously served as Professor of Law, University of Mississippi School of Law, from 1982 to 1995.
Sanderson Farms, Inc. is engaged in the production, processing, marketing and distribution of fresh, frozen and minimally prepared chicken. Its shares trade on the NASDAQ Global Select Market under the symbol SAFM.